How Could Socrates Be Impious While Believing In Spirits

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In Plato’s “Apology of Socrates,” Socrates is being put to trail for a number of contrived, almost fictional reasons. He’s being accused of strange charges, including impiety and “corrupting the youth”.
Regarding his alleged impiety, where he is defending himself against Meletus, he states “is there anyone who believes in what is associated with human beings, but who doesn’t believe in human beings?” This defense proves right on Socrates’ part due to his own of beliefs of how the sun and moon are gods. This makes Meletus look foolish, Socrates even stating “Then if I believe in spirits…and if spirits are gods…you’re making a riddle of and fooling around about.” How could Socrates be impious while believing in spirits?
The contradiction within

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